Cool story bro. The wardec system can be dodged so easily it is completely useless if it comes to miners.

I tried to link a facepalm gif, but the Internets was so tired of this topic it deleted them all so I couldn't.

EVE is a pvp game, it's very nature pits players (P!) against (VERSES) other players (another P!). Non-consensual pvp is present everywhere (and not just combat in space, but in industry, in markets, for resources, etc). PVP is so central to the game people can be engaged in it and not even know it.


The only folks who don't understand what "EVE is a pvp game" means are the folks who have such a narrow idea of what pvp is that they think it involves shooting. Most of my activity involves shooting rats rather than real people (real people have crappy loot and bounties, screw em) and even I know that EVE is a pvp-centric game.

If anything, the game needs more easy ways for players to see how much cargo a particular ship is carrying, both for haulers so they can appreciate the risks they face, and for pirates to select targets.

I underlined the parts that include pvp.

If you are looking for a "not pvp" space game why aren't you playing Ascent? It's on steam.

Certainly.

In game, press F12 and watch the limited engagements video involving CCP Rise:

http://puu.sh/s4U8V/ade67513d4.jpg

There he states it clearly.

Since CCP abandoned the eve wiki which had the clearest outline of it, they now recommend the Eve-Uni Wiki, which also states it clearly:

Engaging a Legal Target

If engaging a corporation member (with friendly fire enabled) or war target:
- No additional timers

If engaging a criminal, suspect, outlaw (security status below -5), or corporation member (friendly fire disabled):
- Gain a limited engagement timer with your target
- Lasts 5 minutes from the most recent aggressive act
- Allows the target to shoot back without consequences

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Aggression_101

The most basic class available from Eve-Uni on aggression. Clearly states outlaws (sec status below -5) are legal targets.

Now, Eve-Uni also state it even more clearly on the Security Status page:

Outlaw

Once your security status drops to -5.0 or below (technically -4.95) you become an ColorTag-SkullOrange9.gif outlaw, also commonly referred to as "perma flashy".

It means anyone can attack you at any time without CONCORD interfering, even in high security space. It also means that assisting you would be a criminal offense, even for your own corporation members. That means anyone who needs to assist you would have to turn their safeties off to assist, and in the process temporarily become a criminal for fifteen minutes. In highsec this means that CONCORD will destroy you if you assist an outlaw, even though they leave the outlaw alone (it is the faction police's job to hunt outlaws).

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Security_status

Here is another site now also recommended by CCP since they abandoned their own wiki> Also extremely clearly written:

Outlaws

Once your security status hits -5 you become an outlaw. You will show as "blinky red" in the overview of other players.

You may attack and kill the ship and pod of an outlaw. Be very aware that if you engage the outlaw then they may defend themselves. In this case you get no help from any sentry guns.

If you attempt to repair an outlaw, you will be criminally flagged and station/gate guns WILL fire at you.

http://eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Aggression_and_Criminal_Flagging

There are several other sources too, though since the removal of the CCP wiki, they have primarily recommended the Eve-Uni wiki as the place to go to.

You should probably go and post your questions in New Citizens Q & A. There's no expectation there that you have knowledge, which in your case seems totally appropriate. Come back to GD when you understand what you are posting.

What? Looks like he lost the bombers to CONCORD. Working as intended.

arzad doesnt sound much fun tbh

Well it is indeed a fact that people who get ganked in their first 15 days are more likely to subscribe. Here is a video where CCP talks about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A92Ge2S8M1Y

Also even an inaccurate observation is better than no observation at all and an uninformed opinion based on a gut feeling.

Which you failed to do, IMO. Worst case interpretation ganking players in their first 15 days has no effect.

In this case it is a study that shows that there is probably no connection between ganking and new players quitting and voila,

We simply call people out for trying to change the game in their favor.
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But maybe you should work on actually bringing some arguments to the table instead of personal insults, gut feelings and plain denial.

Actually that is exactly why they did it. The intention was to flush out carebears from highsec in order to force them to play the game the way it was intended.

It's amazing how few people understand what Eve Online is about. It is not Darkfall, or Wow, or SW:TOR or almost any other MMO that has PvP functionality built it in. Eve Online is literally PvP from the bottom up. It is a "living work of science fiction", not a traditional themepark MMO where the content is provided largely by the developers. In Eve, the central conceit is that we are all the content.

Indeed, there are different levels of security at all of those sec levels. Working as intended.